Whereas if Valor was a thing from day 1 like Conquest than I may never have gone into PVP and would have taken all the PVE stuff from the vault, and also pushed harder for KSM. If I cannot upgrade M0 or raid gear than I literally have 3 pieces of gear I can upgrade and will have to go back into M+ just to find more gear that can be upgraded. I have 3 pieces of gear only that has come from M+ and 1 item from M0, plus 3 from raid. It’s a mixed bag here, I am happy I can push M+ again, but also not happy. I can tell you now if raid gear can not be upgraded the same than people who suck at PVP (like me who is stuck at 1600 rating) will end up simply pushing M+ and never going back to PVP or raiding for gear. Is it ONLY M+? What about raid gear? M0 gear? What of WQ BiS stuff? Like the which I use at 184 iLVL over my 213 trinkets. Gear from Mythic Keystone Dungeons is now upgradeable